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Do you crave praise? In this week's gospel text, Jesus talks about simply doing one's duty without expecting any additional reward. The job itself is the reward. Jonathan and Seth discuss why we might still want praise, but what it looks like not to need it. What does it look like to find contentment in what we're doing? How do we balance commendation and criticism? Is there anything that students and teachers can illuminate for us about that balance?

We're glad you're with us! There are multiple "weird" texts in the lectionary, and I (Seth) think this is one of them. If you'd like to talk more about it, email is; we'd love to hear your thoughts.

Psalms express a particular feeling at a particular time to a particular audience. Because they are so... particular, they can serve as the basis for new psalms and poems. This week, Jonathan and Seth start with Psalm 14 and reverse it. It helps them see the psalm in a new light and to ask questions about professing Christians "do[ing] abominable deeds" (Psalm 14:1). This helps them explore the parable of the lost sheep and the lost coin, too. What are we looking for? What is worth all our energy to find? How might Scripture let us ask new, vibrant questions if we "flip" it sometimes?

We're glad you're with us! Jonathan and Seth got to see each other in person the weekend before this episode goes live. We hope that excitement comes through on the podcast.

Approximately 1/3rd of Americans do not get enough sleep. They lack rest. God, on the other hand, never needs to sleep and yet rests on the 7th day of creation. When this week’s Hebrew Bible text picks up, Isaiah is extolling the benefits of the Sabbath. So, Jonathan and Seth talk about the importance of rest. They wonder what a sabbath practice might look like that isn’t overly strict, but is still help. And they use Tricia Hersey’s book Rest is Resistance to help them consider rest more holistically.

We’re glad you’re with us. However, if you skip this episode to get some rest, we won’t fault you. 

In this week's appointed gospel lesson, Jesus says, "Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division!" (Luke 12:51). Generally, Jesus has been seen as a great uniter, a unifying force among disparate groups with differing identities of every sort. It's what makes this declaration particularly challenging, at least for Jonath and Seth. So, they ask what Jesus might want to separate us from, what is the historical context of Jesus' statement, and how does it apply to us today? What do we need to be divided from to follow Jesus more closely?

We're glad you're with us! We hope your summer ends well. Keep cool, keep hydrated, keep listening!

Do you have a lot of stuff? In this episode, Jonathan and Seth discuss the items they collect. Seth talks about his Uncle Joe, who was a hoarder (and we use that term seriously), and how he witnessed his uncle's attachment to his belongings, especially towards the end of his life. They talk a little about what we can do about all our "stuff", but more about what it means to be ready for Jesus' return by finding our security in Jesus' love for us rather than our belongings.

We're glad you're with us! We'd love to hear what items you collect; we won't judge! And if you've had success thinning your hoard, we'd love to hear about that too. Because we're glad you're on this journey with us, wrestling with what it means to follow Christ in a complex world.

The temptation exists to read Ecclesiastes as fundamentally different from the rest of the Hebrew Scriptures. It's not history, not law, not like proverbs or the psalms, but a completely different genre altogether. There are themes, however, that echo throughout the entire Hebrew Bible that reverberate in Ecclesiastes as well. One of them is rest. The writer doesn't want their audience to toil constantly; that would be pointless, or vanity, or like a breeze that blows through quickly and disappears. What does rest look like? And how can people like Jonathan and Seth help others rest who don't have the opportunity to do so? What does it look like to read Ecclesiastes constructively as opposed to the ramblings of a depressed Solomon?

We're glad you're with us! Ecclesiastes is, maybe strangely, one of Seth's favorite books of the Bible. If you want to read a groundbreaking work, see Jennie Barbour's The Story of Israel in the Book of Qohelet: Ecclesiastes as Cultural Memory.

Jesus gives his disciples what is often called "The Lord's Prayer" or the "Our Father." Afterwards, he tells a story about persistence and relates it to one's prayer life. What happens, however, when our prayers go unanswered despite persistent pleas? What is the point of prayer if it is not a gumball machine, dispensing what one wants after they've paid? Who does prayer change, us or God? Jonathan and Seth discuss why prayer matters. We do it at the end of each episode, after all.

We're glad you're with us! Is there a prayer practice you've found particularly meaningful? Is there a prayer you recite often? If so, we'd love to hear from you. We apologize that this episode was released late too. Like usual, it's Seth's fault!

Jesus has some difficult-to-hear words about following him, including seemingly telling a man that he should not even return home to bury his father. In the ancient world, family may have been more important than it is today; there were no retirement homes, so family had to take care of their members as they aged. If someone ended up in prison, food was not provided. Family or friends had to bring it to them. It's into this ancient context that Jesus' words seem particularly difficult. But they're difficult today, too. What do we do when we encounter texts that seem to push against the grain we see in Scripture? Shouldn't we love and care for those who love and care for us, after all? Shouldn't we invest in our chosen or given families? Jonathan and Seth discuss how to approach and read tough texts.

We're glad you're with us! Seth returned from Greece the day before this episode was recorded, and his circadian rhythm had never been more off. It's better now, but he'd appreciate it if you gave him extra grace this episode.

When a man is purged of his many demons, it seems like cause for celebrating (Luke 8:26-39). The townspeople who knew the man, however, "asked Jesus to leave them, for they were seized with great fear" (Lk. 8:37). How do we let fear dictate how we see our future, how we see others, even how we see Jesus? Jonathan and Seth talk about this rather strange story that seems like a traditional healing, but has much more detail before and after the healing takes place in the narrative. What does this additional information help us learn about the healed, the healer, and the wider community they find themselves?

We're glad you're with us. Lately, our podcast statistics have been trending up! More people than ever are listening. If you're enjoying us or finding us helpful for your sermon preparation, we hope you'll share us with someone else, write us a review, or both.

After celebrating Pentecost, the Church turns its attention to the Triune God. This Sunday makes preaching, teaching, worship planning, and children's sermons particularly difficult because the danger of heresy seems to lurk everywhere. What if we didn't let that stop us from dreaming and exploring what God was like? Jonathan and Seth attempt to unpack what is dangerous about heresies related to the Trinity and whether there is anything we can learn from rigid rules defined in patriarchal councils convened by rulers intent on using the Church for their control. In other words, why does the Trinity still matter?

We're glad you're with us! Seth nerds out on this episode as early church history and the patristic period (from roughly 100-451 CE) piques his interest. We hope that excitment comes through.