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Second Sunday of Easter (Year C) - 4/27/25

The same reading follows Easter Sunday each year, the story of "Doubting Thomas" (John 20:19-31). In previous episodes, we've discussed how Thomas' reputation suffers despite being logical. When has someone risen from the dead, after all? In this episode, we explore how we might react. Do we lean into change quickly? Are we resistant to change? What makes change easier to stomach? Easter changes how we think about death, the forces of evil, and how we can live in light of them, so this episode sets the stage for the rest of this Easter Season.

In this episode, Jonathan and Seth discuss the Change Adoption Continuum; it features prominently in their What Would You Do In This Particular Situation question. You can see the graphic here and read more about how to lead others through change.

We hope you had a joyous Easter filled with the power of Jesus' resurrection. As always, we're glad you're with us too.

Easter Sunday (Year C) - 4/20/25

Vulnerability exists in different forms. Scholars identify physical, social, economic, and environmental as the four main types. What makes being vulnerable so tricky? Why do we feel that way when we might embarrass ourselves or not get what we want? In this episode, Jonathan and Seth talk about those feelings of vulnerability. Jonathan leads an exercise that mimics it and may help us become more accustomed to the feeling; we hope you'll participate in the exercise with us. Finally, they talk about the vulnerability surrounding the entirety of the Easter story.

Since this episode releases Monday of Holy Week, we hope this mini-season is a blessing. Try to take it all in. Sit in Good Friday's pain and confusion (even if you feel vulnerable). And, we hope, you experience the joy of Easter.  We're glad you're with us.

Palm Sunday (Year C) - 4/13/25

"Hosana," people cry as Jesus enters Jerusalem on a donkey. Hosana means "save us."  This reading, including the dramatic entrance and allusions to Caesar entering a city, bursts with political imagery. And politics is dominating the news again. This past weekend, potentially millions marched in the Hands Off protests. People on the opposite side of the aisle have seen Donald Trump as a sort of savior, even a quasi-religious one. So, what does it mean to cry "Hosana" today? What or who needs saving?

This episode focuses primarily on the palms portion of this Sunday. Frankly, we thought there was enough passion, enough suffering in the news, enough death and destruction that an episode on that portion of the day seemed redundant. We're glad you're with us! We hope you'll turn into next week's Easter episode, too.

Fifth Sunday in Lent (Year C) - 4/6/25

After Mary anointed Jesus' feet and Judas hypocritically complained about the price of the perfume not going to the poor, Jesus says, "You always have the poor with you, but you do not always have me" (Jn. 12:8). Unfortunately, this statement has been used to justify not helping those in need. Jonathan and Seth talk about that history briefly but also about spending money on what matters. It's a discussion about how our priorities are shaped by problems we did not cause yet still influence us.

Seth quotes from Lucas Bessire's Running Out: In Search of Water on the High Plains. The majority of the book is Bessire and his dad driving through rural Kansas, meeting with farmers who pump aquifer water and people trying to limit that water use. The afterword is particularly compelling, however, in its connection to broader societal problems and what Bessire calls "the widdening of acceptable disregard."

This episode leads directly into next week's Palm Sunday reading. John's Gospel, too, looks forward to next week's lectionary reading as if to say, "Come back next week for more."  We hope you'll do that! Until then, we're glad you're with us.

Fourth Sunday in Lent (Year C) - 3/31/25

Luke 15 has been called "The Gospel in miniature." In this week's lectionary reading, the parable of the prodigal son is the appointed text (Luke 15:1-3; 11b-32). However, that parable is the third one in a row. So, Jonathan and Seth discussed these three parables alongside Paul's theology of reconciliation. What does reconciliation look like? Who has the power to reconcile? Are there times when reconciliation is not possible?

This episode is particularly joyous because Jonathan and Seth recorded in person. We hope that joy comes through. We also hope the sound quality is acceptable. It's even a short episode because Jonathan and Seth had to get back to playing Mario Party!

Thanks for listening. We are glad you're with us.

Third Sunday in Lent (Year C) - 3/23/25

Who matters? That question permeates politics today. This Sunday's Gospel reading might get at the question in a roundabout way. In roughly the first half, Jesus tells a series of stories about local tragedies; in the latter half, a parable about a fig tree that a vineyard owner wants to cut down. Jonathan and Seth discuss how these stories are about "mattering," how they jettison our traditional sense of mattering because of what they produce, and offer a look into God's economy that values people over any productivity.

Be sure to tune in next week for a special episode recorded in person. Jonathan and Seth rarely get to see each other face-to-face, but had the opportunity to see each other, go bowling, play Mario Party, and find time to record a podcast episode. So, we hope you'll listen next week as well. Until then, we're glad you're with us!

Second Sunday in Lent (Year C) - 3/16/25

At least in North America, citizenship seems to be in the news lately. What do Canadians think about the United States? Who and what is coming over the borders to affect our citizens? How do tariffs impact our citizens and hurt others? And what does it mean for Paul to write, "Our citizenship is in heaven" (Phil. 3:20)? Jonathan and Seth talk about this verse, which is often used to rationalize being separated from the earthly world. Can it be a helpful lens? How might it be particularly helpful in Lent? That seems like enough questions for one podcast!

We're glad you're with us. This episode is not very political, despite the political undertones. So, if you're weary from the news, we hope you'll listen nonetheless.

First Sunday in Lent (Year C) - 3/9/25

Lent begins with ashes, a physical sign of death's inevitability. If you're like me (Seth, here), you feel the ashes on your forehead and wipe them without thinking. They're still there but spread even wider across your brow. Lent may be filled with other physical signs, too. Lenten shrouds cover crosses; baptismal fonts may be dry. Are there any physical signs of God's love in your life? Jonathan and Seth talk about theirs, but more importantly, explore what to do with them. If you do not have something physical like this, Lent may be a time to find it, endow it with meaning, and see if it continues being meaningful post-Easter.

We hope Lent is meaningful, you make it Ash Wednesday (or ashes to-go), and tune in next week as we continue marching through Lent. We're glad you're with us.

Transfiguration Sunday (Year C) - 3/2/25

After receiving the Ten Commandments, Moses comes down the mountain and his face shines (Ex. 34:30). It's like he's been to a rejuvenating spa. Likewise, when Jesus prays at the Transfiguration, "the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning" (Lk. 9.29). Being in God's presence enacts noticeable change. What might that change look like? How can we tell if someone has been spending time in God's presence? What about when two people, each claiming to spend time with God, come away with radically differing conclusions about God and how to live in the world? Jonathan and Seth talk about a lot in this episode; this topic deserves all our attention (and probably future episodes too).

We're glad you're with us! Reach out for support when needed, feel your emotions fully, drink water, and pray. If not for yourself, please do it for us. We care about you and we want you around!

Seventh Sunday after Epiphany (Year C) - 2/23/25

I hope most Christians see forgiveness as part of our main story. Jesus talks about it repeatedly. On the cross, he asks for forgiveness for those who put him up there. Forgiveness is difficult. Forgiveness involves power dynamics. Forgiveness never completely returns the relationship to how it was before. Abusers may use Jesus' command to forgive to perpetuate harm. Jonathan and Seth try to wade through these many issues about forgiveness. How do we take it seriously without it becoming another tool for those in power? When was the last time we forgave someone? What's God's role in forgiveness? There's too much to talk about for one episode, but we try!

We're glad you're with us! Lent is coming, but until then, let's enjoy ordinary time during extraordinary times.